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  • in reply to: Looking for a swarm #11970
    Elliot Mebane
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    Update: They’re gone. Facilities management called a beekeeper to come out and take them.

    in reply to: Swarm Notice: 5792 Jefferson Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90016 #11969
    Elliot Mebane
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    They’re gone. Facilities management called a beekeeper to come out and take them.

    in reply to: Looking for a swarm #11967
    Elliot Mebane
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    A swarm settled down at 12:30 pm at the following location today (Sept. 3). Football sized, hanging from a chair in a public area.

    5792 Jefferson Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90016

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/WeWork+5792+W+Jefferson+Blvd/@34.0256256,-118.3752635,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x1df12c20ca0b0dd5!8m2!3d34.0256256!4d-118.3752635

    in reply to: Honey wanted #10125
    Elliot Mebane
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    Thanks Susan. I was hoping to beat farmer’s market pricing by finding someone with a backyard hive and more honey than they can keep up with. If that sounds like anyone out there (now or sometime in the future when you find this post), let me know — Thanks!

    Elliot Mebane
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    Thanks to Susan for taking some time out to answer my questions over the phone. For others looking for introductory info, here’s some of what I learned from my call with Susan:

    1) This an activity that requires maintenance. You don’t just kick it off and then harvest honey at the end of the production cycles. In the Spring, checking on the hive every few weeks is needed. Other times of the year require less frequent checking. You’re looking for signs the bees are going to swarm soon, and you’re looking for signs the queen and brood remain healthy. Yes, there are people who do maintenance and harvesting and will take a share of the honey as part or all of their compensation.

    2) Both hive types (Top-Bar and Langstroth) require similar attention, however Top-Bar has an advantage in that you don’t have to un-stack the levels in order to check them all. Top-Bar hives are made of one long level with hanging combs that extend from one end to the other. To inspect them you just remove the roof then pull out each bar and comb to inspect it.

    3) Most books on raising bees don’t focus on the CA area. Starting a hive any time in CA is fine. Mites aren’t really a problem around here.

    4) Someone experienced should do the hive removal in the subterranean utility box I mentioned. When re-homing a hive, the combs can be saved and placed into frames of a hive to save the bees the labor and energy of re-creating the comb in their new destination hive. I think Susan said bees consume about 4 lbs. of honey to create 1 lb. of comb.

    5) An optimal location would be sunny in the morning to stimulate the bees to get out and start working early. Dappled sun is best. In a hot environment, they will park themselves outside the hive if necessary to keep the hive at the right temperature.

    6) We didn’t discuss permits, but Susan cautioned about a swarming hive being an irritant to neighbors that should be avoided.

    Other:
    — An elevated hive is always best to deter ground-based pests, like ants. You can coat the legs of a hive stand with tanglefoot to stop ants.
    — You can aim a hive to suggest to the bees a preferred path, although they fly up and overhead within about 5′ of the hive.
    — Combs in a Top-Bar hive hang from a horizontal bar. The combs are only attached to the top bar, while a Langstroth hive’s frames have 4 sides and the comb connects to 3 of the sides. Langstroth frames are easier to handle without breaking the comb off the frame. Top-Bar hives have a 22 degree slope to their sides because that has been found to be the angle that will discourage bees from attaching their comb to the sides of the hive. Pictures of the bars in a Top-Bar hive show a little rib running the length of the bar. The bees use this as a starter point to hang the comb from. It is made of wood, not honeycomb.
    — Harvesting with a centrifugal harvester is better than the method that involves crushing the comb. The comb can be returned to the hive after the honey is extracted and the bees will clean it up and re-use it, saving them the effort of reconstructing it from scratch.
    — Getting your bees from a wild/feral local source is better than a mail order source. A locally-sourced brood will have more natural resistance to the disease in your area. There are a lot of rescued bee broods in our area. During peak season, sometimes several hives are re-homed in a single day.
    — Susan recommends the book: Idiot’s Guide to Beekeeping.
    — Supplementary feeding of bees with honey is better than sugar water because honey (their natural food) has a much lower PH than sugar water. The good/bad microbes in their bodies may be thrown out of proper balance if they eat food with the wrong PH.

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