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April 20, 2015 at 8:04 am #9623Amanda PlunkettParticipant
We have arranged for the ability to have our first hives at the local community garden. They also have a large swarm they would like removed from a drainage pipe. So, there are a few things.
#1 Could a mentor help us to move and rehome that colony?
#2 Is there someone close willing to mentor us? We will be willing to do the same later after being experienced. We are in Rancho Cucamonga.
#3 Is the Honey Love sanctuary where we had the class, organic?
Thank you so much for your help!
Amanda
April 20, 2015 at 8:34 am #9624susan rudnickiParticipantHI, Amanda—are you sure the colony is a SWARM? This may be a hive, meaning they have drawn out combs and the queen has developing brood (baby bees) If it is a “cutout” —what we call a colony that is established in a place—the re-homing is more complicated. You must have a mentor experienced in this work, and a hive body, bottom board, top board and foundation-less frames with NO starter strips for placing the combs into its new home. Rubber bands are often used to secure the cut combs into the frames until the bees repair the damage and re-attach the wax permanently in the frames.
Ceebs may be able to direct you to a mentor in your area, but I caution that, there are few of us, and sometimes it can take awhile to find someone.
Write us back with the details from above SusanApril 20, 2015 at 10:29 am #9625Amanda PlunkettParticipantSusan, thank you for responding. I have been researching for awhile, but this is all still very new.
#1 The colony mentioned above is likely already established with comb as she mentioned this months ago. She wants it to stay on location after removal from the large drainage pipe. I do realize that that this will take experience to prevent trauma to the bees and ourselves. I would love some help with this. It is not urgent, but I would like to move them within the next few weeks. I will be getting pics this week after meeting with her on location.
#2 I understand all of the equipment needed and will be emailing http://www.piercemieras.com/ for foundationless frames. I saw those yesterday and they were so cool!
#3 The garden has an organic policy and with hives on site, participants will more likely abide by the policy.
I have so many questions like…. laws, regulations, preventing theft (IE has been experiencing this), etc. I really would love a mentor and will pay it forward one day.
Thank you!
April 20, 2015 at 11:54 am #9626susan rudnickiParticipantOK—so we have that part figured out. Good it does not have to happen right away. Our group is completely treatment free—no foundation, means the bees’ wax is as uncontaminated as possible. We put nothing in the hive to treat for pests or disease nor do we feed artificial pollen patties or artificial syrups in place of honey.
One thing to know about the frames for doing a cutout—you need a FLAT top bar underside to place the combs up against and the “Ray’s Special frames” have a built in comb guide with a triangular profile. These you would use later when they are building their own combs. Don’t get the Ray’s Special for the initial cutout. Get the image of the hive, so you will know what size —deeps or mediums—to get and how many. You should get at least 10 frames to start, and do not fail to buy at least 2 more boxes and attendent frames for growth. You don’t want to need something and not have it on hand—I find newbees do this a lot and they get in a bind.
You can call me anytime—310-374-4779 for talking about things you question. Also, have you read the Idiot’s Guide, our recommended book to start? Be prepared to keep a notebook of all your developments.
SusanApril 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm #9627Amanda PlunkettParticipantSusan thank you! Those reasons are why I joined Honey Love. As you get to know me, you will understand why. I completely understand and get it!
Those are great points about the top bar. I am getting pictures and more information on Wednesday. We can decide our plan then.
I will keep notes and read books. I seem to immerse myself in anything I learn and catch on quickly.
Thank you so much Susan! I will call you on Wednesday after I have more information. :-). I am super excited!
Amanda
April 22, 2015 at 5:14 pm #9640Amanda PlunkettParticipantSusan, I went today, and we decided to leave the bees be since they are deep in a pipe.
However, I do have other questions about laws and such.
Thanks!
April 22, 2015 at 5:55 pm #9641susan rudnickiParticipantWell, that is often something I have to point out to people—that just because bees are in a place does not mean they HAVE to be taken away! I got your voice mail, but today was particularly busy with a big under shed floor cutout that I must go back to tonight to close up and help the adoptive parent load in his truck. I will get to you! susan
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